[LARTC] Random ping jumps
Artūras Šlajus
x11@h2o.pieva.net
Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:23:21 +0200
R. Steve McKown wrote:
> What happens if you ping from the linux box to the linux box's default
> gateway? If the problem doesn't exhibit in this test nor in any test between
> machines in your LAN, the problem is probably your providers: the DSL modem
> or something 'downstream' from it. You should consider doing tests #2 and #3
> anyway as support for your position when you call your ISP to open a trouble
> ticket.
It's not an ISP. Now it's morning and only 5 users online. The ping is flawless...
Well almost :)
Hostname Last 50 pings
1. adsl-213-190-40-129.taka ..........>.......................................
2. fe22-acc0-tai.kns.teleco ..........c......................................
3. telecom-gw.is.lt ..........b......................................
4. litnet-gw.is.lt .........3a......................................
5. cat6506-p2-1.kttc.litnet .........b3...1a.................................
6. ktu-lan.litnet.lt .........c..........................1............
7. diz.ktu.lt .........>......1................................
Scale: .:30 ms 1:46 ms 2:62 ms 3:99 ms a:193 ms b:283 ms c:441 ms
> 2. plug a PC, configured as the linux router's eth0:1 interface (with proper
> default gateway) and ping from the pc to the default gateway. If the problem
> goes away, its probably the linux router (hardware or software).
The problem goes away. I tried it here on my winxp box.
> * security note *
>
> Running both your LAN and the internet provider subnets on the same ethernet
> network puts you at a much greater security risk. You should seriously
> consider installing a third network interface into your linux box and moving
> eth0:1's ip info to eth2. Then plug the DSL modem into eth2 with a
> cross-over cable with no computers attached.
Huh, would be great, but there is one but. Modem is at one house and server is at another :)
It's zyxel, maybe he has allow by mac or sth. I will look at his firmware setup.
Or maybe you have some thoughts how to connect server and modem? (about 200 m) :)
> I'm guessing your thirty users using Windows. If they have windows network
> enabled, they are all generating broadcast traffic. That traffic will most
> likely be crossing the DSL modem (since it is bridging). Aside from security
> implications, the local traffic that does get bridged is tying up your DSL
> bandwidth. It seems unlikely that 30 PC's could saturate your 128kbps
> uplink, but I'm no expert on windows networking. 128kbps is not a huge pipe,
> so perhaps it's possible. If so, the solution to your security problem is
> also the solution to the latency variability issue. If this is the case,
> both tests #2 and #3 will not show the variability, since your local LAN is
> effectively removed from the test.
Yes, this may be true and solution. But is C class subnet traffic routed? I think it isn't.
It seems that when many users is browsing or doing normal day activities such as email checking
and irc download/upload? is saturated and it causes ping jumps. I will try to move ACKs into front
of queue and also prioritize some traffic. Bad that tc syntax is so unreadable.. Once it took 4 days
for me to write tc script ;-)
Also as roy mentioned, there is no such ip: 81.7.84.1
But if i set nexthop as my gw it says net unreachable... Maybe that gw has multiple addresses
or some magic is done on ISP side.
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Sincerely, Artūras Šlajus
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